I still find it funny that tucutes claim you don’t need dysphoria to be trans and then lie to doctors about being dysphoric to get hormones. 💅

Even if you think that they’re wrong and they shouldn’t, those two things aren’t the least bit contradictory, so what’s funny?

Not to mention, DYSPHORIC PEOPLE DO IT TOO.

We have to lie. About how serious our dysphoria is, about what our childhood was like (the most dysphoric trans people have been denied HRT just for not saying their childhood fit the stereotype), and about many other things sometimes just to be able to get HRT.

Stop shaming “tucutes” for lying when we do it too.

There’s a difference between actual gatekeeping and non-dysphoric people lying to get hormones they don’t need.

The stereotypes of dysphoric children shouldn’t exist because usually children follow along with what the parents want. But when they’re literal adults lying about dysphoria to get hormones, they likely don’t need them.

Actual gatekeeping involves gender non-conforming trans men or trans women. Not people with no dysphoria.

Except non-dysphorics are still trans, and should be able to transition if they desire to.

That’s why education is necessary. They should provided with alternatives and educated on the risks, not denied HRT entirely. The resource isn’t finite, we can make more.

And before you feed me any “but That’s stealing resources,” garbage; no It’s not.

The lines would be long even without non-dysphorics and the resources are not finite.

People who are non-dysphoric will more than likely end up dysphoric. The point of not wanting non-dysphorics to get resources they don’t need is to save them from ruining themselves because a lot of them don’t understand that it can definitely ruin their lives if it’s the wrong decision for them. It’s why the majority of non-dysphoric people don’t go on hormones, because they don’t want to face the fact that they’re not actually a dysphoric trans person. It’s less of “they don’t deserve hormones” and more of “they don’t need them and it can cause more harm than good”.

That’s why we offer alternatives and educate on the risks.

There are non-dysphorics who transition and are fine. It happens. You need to get out of your bubble and realize that that isn’t a good excuse for being an ass to these people.

If they transition and are fine, it is more than likely that they were dysphoric and are much more happier living as the other gender. Which is literally being dysphoric. When you feel better being the other gender due to the relief of dysphoria, it’s clear that they were dysphoric and unaware.

No it isn’t. XD Dysphoria is a chronic negative state, impairment, or distress.

Whether you like it or not, not all trans people experience this and non-dysphorics who transition and don’t suddenly become dysphoric are still non-dysphoric. Reality doesn’t bend to your narratives.

My dysphoria comes less in distress and more in feeling like things don’t belong to me. My body isn’t mine. Dysphoria is the disconnect and it can cause distress. But it doesn’t mean it does.

If they’re non-dysphoric, they aren’t trans.

By your logic, I’d be “non-dysphoric” but I’m pretty sure every person who is “non-dysphoric” experiences the disconnect. Which is still defined under dysphoria.

It says it can be distress, but it can affect them in other ways. It doesn’t mean they hate being trans.

Dysphoria is not the disconnect. XD It isn’t. Sorry but your definition is incorrect.

Dysphoria is the distress, not the disconnect.

That’s literally from the DSM. It says you can have the distress, but it isn’t necessary.

The DSM-V literally has in it that “not all trans people experience dysphoria and that is important to remember.”

Again, hun, the disconnect is not dysphoria.

Give me a link so I can read it.

I couldn’t find the actual DSM-V online, but I found something from Wikipedia and the APA (the APA attributed a lot to the DSM-V)

I can provide a link to both if you would rather read everything, but these two screenshots were most relevant. The left less than the right, but it was still interesting, so, ya know.

Here’s the DSM-V! The first picture includes the criteria children, adolescents, and adults have to hit in order to be diagnosed with gender dysphoria. In the second picture, they say “the discrepancy [between experienced gender and assigned gender] is the core component of the diagnosis,” not the distress. I can post the rest of the pages if anyone wants, but the DSM-V says that gender dysphoria is an incongruence/disconnect/discrepancy between experienced and assigned gender

That is the DSM-V, but your conclusion does not follow—what is required for diagnosis of Gender Dysphoria is not what GD is. If only criterion B (distress) is observed then the person in question could have a number of conditions; GD specifically cannot be diagnosed. In effect, the DSM-V defines being trans (criterion A; sex-gender discrepancy) as being necessary to have Gender Dysphoria—not vice versa. This is made explicitly clear on the page before, which does describe what Gender Dysphoria is:

“Gender dysphoria refers to the distress that may accompany the incongruence between one’s experienced or expressed gender and one’s assigned gender. Although not all individuals will experience distress as a result of such incongruence, many are distressed if the desired physical interventions by means of hormones and/or surgery are not available.”

Emphasis mine. GD is distress, not incongruence, and not all [trans] people experience it.

You and @tranny-faggot are unambiguously wrong; @nerdylilpeebee is correct.